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The E/X Sessions

Marketing leaders answer the questions your reports can't ask. Learn what actually lands with leadership — straight from the people who decide what gets prioritized.

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Marketing leaders sharing what actually matters when it comes to email and SMS.

The Concept

Bridging the Gap Between CRM Work and Leadership Priorities

Every CRM professional has wondered: "What does leadership actually want to see?" The E/X Sessions answers that question directly — by asking the people who read your reports, sit through your presentations, and decide what gets prioritized next.

Same 3 questions. Every episode. Different leaders. Real answers about where focus should go, where email/SMS hits its limits, and how success is actually measured beyond the revenue number.

Time & FocusWhere your team spends their time — and where they should
The Story to LeadershipWhat stories you want to tell — and how your team can help
Metrics That MatterThe KPIs that actually matter for retention
One TipActionable advice for CRM professionals
Who We Interview

The People Who Decide What Gets Prioritized

CMOs, VPs of Marketing, Retention Directors — the people who read your reports, sit through your deck presentations, and ultimately decide what gets funded and what gets cut.

CMOs & VPs of Marketing

Executive leaders who set the strategic direction and allocate resources across all marketing channels.

Retention & CRM Directors

Leaders who bridge the gap between email/SMS execution and broader business objectives.

Ecommerce Leadership

Decision-makers who evaluate how retention marketing fits into the complete customer journey.

The Format

3 Questions. Every Episode.

Consistency creates clarity. By asking the same questions to every guest, patterns emerge — and you learn what leadership actually values, not just what one person thinks.

Time & Focus

Where does your email/SMS team actually spend their time — and is that where they should be?

The Story to Leadership

What stories do you want to tell leadership about email/SMS — and how can your team help you tell them?

Metrics That Matter

What are the KPIs that actually matter to you when you think about your retention program?

Closer

One tip for CRM professionals.

Who This Is For

Built for Marketers Who Want to Know What Actually Lands

Whether you're running the day-to-day of an email program or leading a full retention team, understanding what leadership cares about changes how you prioritize, present, and prove your value.

Email & SMS managers who want to stand out
CRM teams building their internal reputation
Retention marketers preparing for their next role
Agency teams who want to speak leadership's language
Marketing generalists exploring retention as a specialty
Anyone who's ever wondered "what does my CMO actually want?"
Your Host

Meet Jason Donapel

Jason Donapel

Jason Donapel

Founder, The Email Experience

Jason started in ecommerce as a warehouse picker/packer before working his way up to head of marketing — twice. He co-founded The Email Experience in 2016, building a retention marketing agency that has generated over $200 million in email and SMS revenue for brands like Tecovas, Jocko Fuel, Dose of Colors, and hundreds more.

He's spent two decades obsessing over what makes retention marketing actually work — not just for the metrics, but for the people doing the work every day.

2X Head of MarketingAgency FounderRetention Marketing ConsultantEmail/SMS Enthusiast
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